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#11 Platinumkanikas

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Posted 17 November 2010 - 06:28 PM

I am 100% for it! I go to college and after hearing about all these shootings, I would feel a lot safer if there were a bunch of us walking around with guns. To get licensed, the need to check your background as well as other things so I'm not worried about a licensed owner shooting up a school. I am planning on getting my concealed gun license and would love it if we could have them on campus.

Also, if a gunman knows there are a bunch of random people walking around with a gun, they might think twice about doing it.

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#12 TreasureTech

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 08:28 AM

View Postill05nino, on 17 November 2010 - 10:03 AM, said:

And actually, to piggy back on what Bunny Just said, not only does NY have a MUCH larger population, but when you look at the statistics, Vermont has more firearm caused deaths per 100,000 residents than New York.

#34 -- Vermont -- 9.6 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#46 -- New York -- 5.1 Deaths per 100,000 residents

So per capita, as of 2009, Vermont has more deaths caused by firearms. :)


FYI... Top 5 in the country, as of 2009, are as follows:

#1 -- District of Columbia -- 31.2 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#2 -- Alaska -- 20.0 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#3 -- Louisiana -- 19.5 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#4 -- Wyoming -- 18.8 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#5 -- Arizona -- 18.0 Deaths per 100,000 residents


Now to be a little fair, the number 1 (DC) is just a city, so places like New Orleans, which actually has a higher death rate caused by guns than DC, are brought down to a lower number because the rest of Louisiana has extremely low numbers, and DC doesn't get that advantage. However, for arguments sake, you can leave DC off the list, just thought I'd share that with ya!

Citation needed.

Also, with "Deaths per 100,000" that could mean "criminals shot" not necessarily crime. I have little pity for criminals who get shot.
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#13 ill05nino

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 09:43 AM

View PostTreasureTech, on 18 November 2010 - 08:28 AM, said:

View Postill05nino, on 17 November 2010 - 10:03 AM, said:

And actually, to piggy back on what Bunny Just said, not only does NY have a MUCH larger population, but when you look at the statistics, Vermont has more firearm caused deaths per 100,000 residents than New York.

#34 -- Vermont -- 9.6 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#46 -- New York -- 5.1 Deaths per 100,000 residents

So per capita, as of 2009, Vermont has more deaths caused by firearms. :)


FYI... Top 5 in the country, as of 2009, are as follows:

#1 -- District of Columbia -- 31.2 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#2 -- Alaska -- 20.0 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#3 -- Louisiana -- 19.5 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#4 -- Wyoming -- 18.8 Deaths per 100,000 residents
#5 -- Arizona -- 18.0 Deaths per 100,000 residents


Now to be a little fair, the number 1 (DC) is just a city, so places like New Orleans, which actually has a higher death rate caused by guns than DC, are brought down to a lower number because the rest of Louisiana has extremely low numbers, and DC doesn't get that advantage. However, for arguments sake, you can leave DC off the list, just thought I'd share that with ya!

Citation needed.

Also, with "Deaths per 100,000" that could mean "criminals shot" not necessarily crime. I have little pity for criminals who get shot.


Those numbers came from the CDC. You can easily look them up if you wish!
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#14 ferrari353

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Posted 24 November 2010 - 03:56 PM

I guess if they have a permit, then it's fine.  But why would you need a gun at school in the first place....
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#15 Koies

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 09:34 PM

I guess Treasuretech does have a point BUT I still personally feel guns should have restrictions and that other forms of protection against criminals be used.
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Posted 27 November 2010 - 06:09 PM

Other forms of protection such as what? NOTHING stops crime quite like a bullet ;)
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#17 Punkyc7

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 01:08 AM

yep
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#18 hex89

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Posted 30 November 2010 - 10:38 PM

no I think that is retarded, most colleges have a great police of their own anyway and if you call them they can come in 2 minutes or less !  I agree with owning guns in general though
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#19 IcemanUnlimited

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 01:32 AM

To hex89 and ferrari353:

I hear about rape, muggings, etc on campus more often than I'd like to in the news.. Some punk won't try that if the girl might be carrying firepower. If the criminal tries anyway, he needs a little lead in his diet. Pepper spray and stun guns may work on some people, but I have seen others only minimally affected..

Edited by IcemanUnlimited, 01 December 2010 - 01:36 AM.


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 11:52 AM

View Posthex89, on 30 November 2010 - 10:38 PM, said:

no I think that is retarded, most colleges have a great police of their own anyway and if you call them they can come in 2 minutes or less !  I agree with owning guns in general though
Number one, No personal insults.
Number two, what police force are you researching with a 2minute response time? The nationwide average for 911 is about 30 minutes to 1 hour.
Number three, even assuming your "2 minutes or less" was correct....how long does it take for someone to stab you? how long does it take them to knock a woman out and carry her away to rape her? A lot less than 2 minutes.
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